jon: he is joining us to tell us more about this program. are you feeling like you could have been a dropout had it not been for the boys and girls club? >> i'll say this, you know, many of my friends didn't make it, you know. one spent 28 years in the peenual system, another spent about 25 years, and you know, the boys and girls club meant everything to me then, it does now. we have a shining example of that with us today, ramona is the national youth of the year and she can tell awe bit of her story, but she was in the streets and homeless and now she sit here today in washington, d.c. jenna: you know den zel, we actually were showing some of the pictures of you that the boys and girls club uses on their advertisements. it looks like you as a little boy, i don't know what age, six, seven, ten -- >> eight. >> eight years old. tell us a little about what you were like as a little boy going to the boys and girls clubs, were you running around, you know, acting out movie roles and things like that? >> well, you know, my mother, she had me very